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[KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  jojkov » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:46 pm

  12 Dec 2017, 13:24 GMT » iViktorius wrote:
  11 Dec 2017, 09:32 GMT » misafeco wrote:
ELO is here:
1. Aztecs 1692
2. Huns 1662
3. Incas 1659
4. Burmese 1634
5. Mayans 1627
6. Britons 1623
7. Indians 1622
8. Spanish 1614
9. Mongols 1606
10. Malians 1602
11. Goths 1599
12. Celts 1594
13. Vikings 1584
14. Japanese 1571
15. Berbers 1564
16. Magyars 1556
17. Italians 1550
18. Vietnamese 1532
19. Ethiopians 1529
20. Malay 1502

Less than 2 games: Koreans, Franks, Byzantines, Chinese


Can we change the Finals settings to make sure these 4 civs are played so that they can be added to the ranking? 8-)

What about those poor 7 remaining civs, which weren't played at all?
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  Cutht » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:08 am

My utmost respect to the 2players researching carto.

It's quite extraordinary to see how an eagle scout is the most trained unit. Especially since it's only available to 3civs.
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  misafeco » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:53 am

  16 Dec 2017, 00:08 GMT » Cutht wrote:
My utmost respect to the 2players researching carto.

It's quite extraordinary to see how an eagle scout is the most trained unit. Especially since it's only available to 3civs.

It's not just the ES, you can add EW and EEW too. Meso civs trained almost 100 of them per match on average.
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  Andreas » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:32 am

Can someone tell me why malay score so bad?
I would expect them to be one of the best civs: 4 extra vils if u reach fuedal cause of the faster age bonus,
and OP unique unit. Even the tech which makes champ line not cost gold anymore is OP.
Why did they perform so badly? 11
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  Philippe le Bon » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:54 am

  12 Dec 2017, 14:46 GMT » jojkov wrote:
  12 Dec 2017, 13:24 GMT » iViktorius wrote:
  11 Dec 2017, 09:32 GMT » misafeco wrote:
ELO is here:
1. Aztecs 1692
2. Huns 1662
3. Incas 1659
4. Burmese 1634
5. Mayans 1627
6. Britons 1623
7. Indians 1622
8. Spanish 1614
9. Mongols 1606
10. Malians 1602
11. Goths 1599
12. Celts 1594
13. Vikings 1584
14. Japanese 1571
15. Berbers 1564
16. Magyars 1556
17. Italians 1550
18. Vietnamese 1532
19. Ethiopians 1529
20. Malay 1502

Less than 2 games: Koreans, Franks, Byzantines, Chinese


Can we change the Finals settings to make sure these 4 civs are played so that they can be added to the ranking? 8-)

What about those poor 7 remaining civs, which weren't played at all?


Well Cysion needs to do something about them, and the civs with less than 2 games to some extent. And Vietnamese also. They suck.

All civs being balanced on 1v1 arabia is a must. At least 21 out of 31 are fine now :)
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  Jineapple » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:35 am

Absolutely not. Trying to balance all civs on a single map in 1v1 is a terrible idea and would just unbalance other settings. It's fine if some civs are subpar picks on 1v1 Arabia.
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  Philippe le Bon » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:05 pm

Most of the top arabia civs are also great TG civs, there is no point in purposely make civs weaker using the excuse of "well they're good late game".

Furthermore, bad 1v1 arabia civs are also bad flank civs in TGs. Do we want a world with the same remarks again "OH NO, **** this civ, I'm flank why am I Teuton/Khmer/Saracens/Turk etc.", or do we want to try something to make them as good as any other civ before Imperial?

What is the use of a great imperial civ if it can't reach it?
For example, Berbers have a great imperial age, but before they are as great, so they would kill any of the aforementioned civs before they could reach Imp themselves

I can imagine the pity if your favorite civ is one of the 10 sucky one (because of your origins, the country you live in, childhood memories of playing AoC), but you just can't play them because they are not good.

Thankfully Vikings are great, but If my favourite civ was Portuguese or Vietnamese because of reasons, god dammit I would be so devastated
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  philipp94831 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Now that the tournament is finished, here is my final ranking of the civs:

1 AZTECS 9.00%
2 INDIANS 8.18%
3 MAYANS 7.50%
4 BERBERS 7.14%
5 HUNS 6.33%
6 BURMESE 6.01%
7 INCAS 5.74%
8 MALIANS 5.52%
9 MALAY 5.08%
10 MAGYARS 4.73%
11 BRITONS 4.44%
12 BYZANTINES 3.98%
13 ETHIOPIANS 3.74%
14 MONGOLS 3.03%
15 CELTS 2.98%
16 SPANISH 2.96%
17 FRANKS 2.78%
18 KOREANS 2.35%
19 CHINESE 1.78%
20 VIKINGS 1.67%
21 GOTHS 1.59%
22 VIETNAMESE 1.27%
23 ITALIANS 1.16%
24 JAPANESE 1.05%
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  misafeco » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:03 pm

Final ELO rankings:
1. Aztecs 1702
2.Huns 1673
3. Burmese 1649
4. Incas 1641
5. Britons 1639
6. Indians 1636
7. Byzantines 1631
8. Franks 1629
9. Mongols 1624
10. Spanish 1614
11. Mayans 1610
12. Celts 1608
13. Chinese 1601
14. Goths 1599
15. Malians 1587
16. Japanese 1571
17. Vikings 1570
18. Berbers 1550
19. Magyars 1542
20. Italians 1540
21. Vietnamese 1532
22. Ethiopians 1518
23. Malay 1502

Only 1 game:
Koreans 1618

Not played:
Teutons, Persians, Turks, Saracens, Slavs, Khmer, Portuguese
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Re: [KotD] Clash of the Civilizations (Stats)

Postby  misafeco » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:10 pm

  12 Dec 2017, 13:24 GMT » iViktorius wrote:
Can we change the Finals settings to make sure these 4 civs are played so that they can be added to the ranking? 8-)

3 of them did play. ;)
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