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SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  prv_limb » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:07 pm

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After 75 matches in the Qualification Stage and another 150+ matches in the Silver League it is time for the Grand Final of the Silver League. (china) China EMA and Czech Republic A (czech) will battle for the number one spot in the Grand Final and for 810 USD. The teams were seeded first (China EMA) and second (Czech Republic A) after their performance in Gold League group stage. China EMA defeated Japan A in the Semi Finals, who could be considered as the biggest upset in the Silver League, not beating one but two Gold League drop outs.

Grand Final: China EMA vs Czech Republic A - Sunday 8 October 11:00 GMT
3rd Place Match: Japan A vs Austria A - Saturday 7 October 14:00 GMT


Congratulations to the 2 teams playing in the Grand Final:

China EMACzech Republic A
Image _EMA_snVooblyImage CZ_OvenkaVoobly
IamOKVoobly CZ_SkullVoobly
IamMuzkiVoobly CZ_MangoVoobly
_LHD_xiaohaiVoobly JanikVoobly
BAT001Voobly Error_czVoobly
_CBJ_NotoVoobly ExITVoobly
yanqiangVoobly
CNA_StrayDogVoobly


Road to the Grand Final

    [Show] Spoiler: China EMA
    9 matches (7 won, 1 lost, 1 drawn), 34 games (24 won, 10 lost)
    QS:China EMA 2:0 Norway A
    QS:China EMA 3:2 Vietnam C
    GL:China EMA 0:4 Canada A
    GL:China EMA 2:2 Finland A
    GL:China EMA AW:AL Chile B
    SL:China EMA 3:0 Germany C
    SL:China EMA 3:2 Mexico B
    SL:China EMA 3:0 Vietnam B
    SL:China EMA 4:0 Japan A
    [Show] Spoiler: Czech Republic A
    9 matches (7 won, 2 lost), 34 games (24 won, 10 lost)
    QS:Czech Republic A 2:0 Peru A
    QS:Czech Republic A AW:AL Turkey A
    GL:Czech Republic A 1:3 China SY
    GL:Czech Republic A 4:0 Brazil C
    GL:Czech Republic A 1:3 Argentina A
    SL:Czech Republic A 3:0 Argentina B
    SL:Czech Republic A 3:1 Russia A
    SL:Czech Republic A 3:1 Sweden A
    SL:Czech Republic A 4:2 Austria A

Grand Final Settings

    Game 1: 3v3, SYNC_Arabia, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 2: 3v3, SYNC_Nomad_v2, Team Random.
    Game 3: 3v3, SYNC_Team_Acropolis, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 4: 3v3, Home map of whoever is losing after Game 3, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 5: 3v3, Home map of whoever is winning after Game 3, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 6: 3v3, SYNC_Golden_Crater, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 7: 3v3, SYNC_Fortress (Regicide), Hidden Different Civilizations per team, no Mayans and Chinese.

    The matches are played as 3v3. If both teams agree, it can also be played as a 4v4. If only 1 team wants to play 4v4, the match must be played as 3v3.

3rd Place Match


    Japan A vs Austria A

    Tournament history
    [Show] Spoiler: Japan A
    11 matches (9 won, 2 lost), 40 games (29 won, 11 lost)
    QS:Japan A 2:0 Sweden B
    QS:Japan A 2:3 Brazil C
    SL:Japan A 4:0 Spain E
    SL:Japan A AW:AL Belarus A
    SL:Japan A AW:AL Czech Republic B
    SL:Japan A AW:AL United Kingdom B
    SL:Japan A 4:0 Venezuela A
    SL:Japan A 3:0 Turkey A
    SL:Japan A 3:2 United States A
    SL:Japan A 3:2 Brazil C
    SL:Japan A 0:4 China EMA
    [Show] Spoiler: Austria A
    9 matches (5 won, 4 lost), 35 games (17 won, 18 lost)
    QS:Austria A 2:0 Switzerland A
    QS:Austria A 3:2 Sweden A
    GL:Austria A 0:4 China Frantic
    GL:Austria A 0:4 Brazil A
    GL:Austria A 1:3 Vietnam B
    SL:Austria A 3:0 Hong Kong A
    SL:Austria A 3:0 Ukraine A
    SL:Austria A 3:1 France A
    SL:Austria A 2:4 Czech Republic A

    Settings:
    Game 1: 3v3, SYNC_Arabia, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 2: 3v3, SYNC_Windmill, Hidden Different Civilizations per team, no Mayans and Vikings.
    Game 3: 3v3, SYNC_Shallow_Web, Team Random.
    Game 4: 3v3, Home map of whoever is losing after Game 3, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 5: 3v3, Home map of whoever is winning after Game 3, Hidden Different Civilizations per team.
    Game 6: 3v3, SYNC_Chaos_Pit, Team Random.
    Game 7: 3v3, SYNC_Fortress (Regicide), Hidden Different Civilizations per team.

    The matches are played as 3v3. If both teams agree, it can also be played as a 4v4. If only 1 team wants to play 4v4, the match must be played as 3v3.

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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  Klaus the Conqueror » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:55 am

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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  andreskbr » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:19 am

I know it's easy to criticize, but what's up with all those 3rd/5th/7th place matches? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel the motivation of players is almost 0 in those games. The scheduling effort is clearly less, the special preparation doesn't seem to exist and the playing level drops. Making a 3rd place match for Gold League would be fine, but the way it's done seems to me as a purposeless extent of the tournament.
That said about placement matches, I'd like to praise staff for making the Silver League happen. It's an absolutely amazing idea, an opportunity for teams to take a new challenge and . I'm very excited to follow the finals, China EMA looks to me as an ultra-agressive forwarding engine. They don't let their enemies breath, especially the flanks. Let's remember they scored 2-2 against Finland, one of the teams playing the Grand Final. Czech isn't bad either, they are very experienced in high level scenario. However, I don't think they are as strong as in the last years. Too bad Lojza is active currently. I expect a Gold League level match, good luck to both teams :mrgreen: .
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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  rustyknivess » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:29 am

I read that both Czech and Austria told each other: "ya guys get first/third easily" but IMO china EMA is a pretty good team. Of course czech A is a polished team with skull/janik but ema has IamOK and straydog who are really good too. I remember IamOK did decent when he was in CKF and straydog is a pretty good 1v1 player.

Japan A is a good team if they let their strongest player shine which is Choco. Bustos is also good but he played so badly in the semi finals vs China EMA. If Japan A had their old roster with tokiwa, escape and dodonpa they wouldn't be in the silver league.
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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  Error_cz » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:55 am

only sad is, that in final are so stupid maps. I understand, its chinese tournament, but 4x land map + nomad like chinese HM... for me final maps are too boring. But its only my opinion.

And best rules for ara, no mongol and mayan, which made ara really interesting isnt in final... so mongol hun may still again again and again :)))
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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  crosso » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:20 am

  06 Oct 2017, 07:55 GMT » Error_cz wrote:
only sad is, that in final are so stupid maps. I understand, its chinese tournament, but 4x land map + nomad like chinese HM... for me final maps are too boring. But its only my opinion.

And best rules for ara, no mongol and mayan, which made ara really interesting isnt in final... so mongol hun may still again again and again :)))


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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  LB10 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:40 pm

I'm pretty sure there were no chinese guys involved in making the settings for the silver league since the prize pool came from our community. And only because you dont like the maps Error, that doenst mean they are stupid ^^
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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  Error_cz » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:02 pm

  06 Oct 2017, 09:20 GMT » crosso wrote:
  06 Oct 2017, 07:55 GMT » Error_cz wrote:
only sad is, that in final are so stupid maps. I understand, its chinese tournament, but 4x land map + nomad like chinese HM... for me final maps are too boring. But its only my opinion.

And best rules for ara, no mongol and mayan, which made ara really interesting isnt in final... so mongol hun may still again again and again :)))


sounds like you've got your excuses prepared already


Really no. We are playing all maps so i guess there isnt problem.

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I'm pretty sure there were no chinese guys involved in making the settings for the silver league since the prize pool came from our community. And only because you dont like the maps Error, that doenst mean they are stupid ^^


yeah, but look at map pack. There are so many really interesting maps... and even against you, these maps were more interesting then maps in final. Or maybe if they want see these maps (i dont), so more TR... or its still same.
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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  Klaus the Conqueror » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:31 pm

  06 Oct 2017, 07:55 GMT » Error_cz wrote:
only sad is, that in final are so stupid maps. I understand, its chinese tournament, but 4x land map + nomad like chinese HM... for me final maps are too boring. But its only my opinion.

And best rules for ara, no mongol and mayan, which made ara really interesting isnt in final... so mongol hun may still again again and again :)))

I do expect more water maps, but i dont like rules limiting civ choices. iwant to see best players playing the optimal civ combination on a map.
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Re: SY China Nations Cup 2017 - Silver League Final

Postby  prv_limb » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:01 pm

China had no influence in the Silver League settings. When preparing the settings we felt that including water maps would give certain teams a too big of an advantage versus opponents. Home map choices are included for teams to exploit weaknesses of their opponents, instead of setting maps that could cause teams to have an almost certain 1-0 deficit. We also tried to mix up the maps and settings as much as possible while still keeping it fair/even with no big advantages and keep the core of AoC for the final games.
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