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the Brainless beating Barbie thread

Postby  Brainless » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:14 pm

[ EDIT ]
This thread is dedicated to games vs and with the AI Barbarian. (AI = Artificial Intelligence, the program controlling the computer player)

It started by me posting my own 1v1 games, but all are free to add their own records, as long as Barbarian takes part in it.
It is appreciated to play the latest version, which you can download here: http://aok.heavengames.com/blacksmith/showfile.php?fileid=11085&f=&st=10&ci=
Unzip it into the games AI folder.

The current version is Barbarian 2.16c, played in AOC userpatch

These game are meant as a testing ground.
It is sometimes unclear however who is tested, Barbarian or me.
After this text the original first message continues.
[ END EDIT ]


Here an example of what can be done in Steppe map.

Castle age in 13:48, then spamming CA.
1v1 Brainless vs Barbie hardest, map Steppe, speed slow

Not very special, no tricks involved, just staightforward fast castle.
But i must say, TC placement is crucial in this map.

Beat that Barbie!

[ EDIT 27-08-2015 ] altough this thread is pretty old people are still downloading this 1st record (177 times!). You better scroll to the end, because bot barbie and i got better overtime. And we found better game configurations to play.
Also, the first few recs are AOFE, but later they are all AOC with userpatch. Be sure to have the latest userpatch version, in order to play them! http://userpatch.aiscripters.net/guide.html
Last edited by  Brainless on Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:04 am, edited 8 times in total.
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  _Greenwolf » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:38 am

barbarian fails in this map? 14 mins feudal
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  Brainless » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:06 pm

  30 Apr 2014, 07:38 GMT » _Greenwolf wrote:
barbarian fails in this map? 14 mins feudal


1 it has trouble with the start. It has trouble picking the best spot for TC, and then building it with only 4 out of 6 vills. Slow start
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  Promiskuitiv » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:20 pm

@viewers: Keep in mind that this is an outdated version of Barbarian though, the new ones don't work on AoFE anymore since it uses an old version of the userpatch (except if you manually upgrade it).
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  fenris_w0lf » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:22 pm

+1 Promi

Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)


AOFE...what version?

Version: AOC 1.0c


...confusion...

Anyways; most likely old-UP Barbarian - gb :D
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  Brainless » Thu May 01, 2014 1:20 pm

  30 Apr 2014, 22:22 GMT » fenris_w0lf wrote:
+1 Promi

Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)


AOFE...what version?

Version: AOC 1.0c


...confusion...

Anyways; most likely old-UP Barbarian - gb :D


- AOFE 2.2 : its the only version anyone should use, if you use the launcher it auto-updates if you have an old version.

- the confusing 1.0c flag is an AoCZone problem, its just an AOFE 2.2 record.

- i dont know how many updates Barbarian had after 10-05-2013 but this one is pretty awesome already. No gb :D if you have not tried it yourself please.

But if you say i might try to do the same in UP 1.4 i will. I just miss the option to select Barbarian in the players menu of UP 1.4, like it does in AOFE.
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  TheMax » Thu May 01, 2014 5:37 pm

  01 May 2014, 12:20 GMT » Brainless wrote:
- AOFE 2.2 : its the only version anyone should use, if you use the launcher it auto-updates if you have an old version.

- the confusing 1.0c flag is an AoCZone problem, its just an AOFE 2.2 record.

- i dont know how many updates Barbarian had after 10-05-2013 but this one is pretty awesome already. No gb :D if you have not tried it yourself please.

But if you say i might try to do the same in UP 1.4 i will. I just miss the option to select Barbarian in the players menu of UP 1.4, like it does in AOFE.

Latest version of Barbarian is 2.14b (updated in 6-4-2014). AoFE 2.2 uses 2.13 beta (which still lacked quite a few features final 2.13 had, like ability to cut with siege onagers on maps defined as michi), which was the last version to work with UP 1.2, and AoFE is based on that.

Selecting AIs can be selected exactly the same way with UP 1.4 as with AoFE (the ability to pick AIs in multiplayer is an UP-feature, not AoFE exclusive).

I certainly would love to watch AI games from UP 1.4 with latest AI versions, and so would other AI scripters. There are multiple good UP AIs that should be able to play almost all maps: Barbarian, IS_Machine, Promi, The Horde and UnfairSteel (Juggernaut is a more recent AI from the same scripter, but it only plays land maps at the moment).

It's also possible to use UP 1.4 with AoFE, which allows using later AI versions that aren't compatible with with AoFE's outdated UP version:
http://www.aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?p=327373#p327373
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  Brainless » Thu May 01, 2014 7:11 pm

  01 May 2014, 16:37 GMT » TheMax wrote:
Selecting AIs can be selected exactly the same way with UP 1.4 as with AoFE (the ability to pick AIs in multiplayer is an UP-feature, not AoFE exclusive).


Can you help me out in this? To be sure i just downloaded and reinstalled the latest UP from viewtopic.php?f=101&t=93911


I am sure you know what you are talking about so help this noob out and i will upload some nice AI testing records soon...
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  TheMax » Thu May 01, 2014 7:25 pm

The arrow doesn't show up if you don't have any AIs in your AI folder.

Quite a few AIs with links to their latest versions can be found here:
http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/foru ... 8&tn=40898
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Re: Brainless beating Barbie (AOFE hardest 1v1)

Postby  Brainless » Thu May 01, 2014 7:32 pm

7 i assumed they were in the package....
thank you very much
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