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Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

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Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  iViktorius » Sat May 06, 2017 3:52 pm

Mongols UT Drill makes siege units 50% faster.

Base movement rate of a siege ram is 0.6, with Drill that would be 0.6 * 1.5 = 0.9
Every garrisoned infantry adds 0.05 so a fully garrisoned siege ram (without drill) gets 0.6 + 6*0.05 = 0.9

But does Drill apply to the garrisons or not?

If not then: 0.6 * 1.5 + 6 * 0.05 = 1.2
If so then: (0.6 + 6 * 0.05) * 1.5 = 1.35

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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  AkeNo » Sat May 06, 2017 3:54 pm

I heard that a fully garrisoned Siege Tower on HD is the fastest unit in the game with Drill.
So I guess it does apply, at least on HD
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  iViktorius » Sat May 06, 2017 4:10 pm

got a source for that?
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  RoR_BzH » Sat May 06, 2017 6:32 pm

yes it does.
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  kc_Ereon » Sat May 06, 2017 6:51 pm

That's a question for SotL, no? If you trust his investigations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPK2RnpEgPA (starts around 4:50)
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  iViktorius » Sat May 06, 2017 9:45 pm

So according to him it doesnt apply to garrisoned units. I guess I'll just have to trust him
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  gmischa » Sat May 06, 2017 10:45 pm

Ivik needs some fast units to make up for his "speed" Kappa
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  Jineapple » Sat May 06, 2017 11:35 pm

It does not apply to the garrisoned unit speed bonus, only to the base speed.

Therefore a fully loaded mongol siege tower has a speed of (0.8*1.5)+10*0.05=1.7 tiles/s. Second-fastest land unit (fastest being feudal age+ scout with husbandry at 1.705 tiles/s ;)
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  _ratS » Mon May 08, 2017 6:50 pm

whats a "mongol siege tower" ??? i want to make this one day
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Re: Does Drill apply to garrisoned units?

Postby  iViktorius » Mon May 08, 2017 8:22 pm

A siege tower is a new siege unit in the expansions. It's available to all civs. It supposedly is able to drop garrisoned units on the other side of walls, but afaik it's not working properly.
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