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X-Patch?

Postby  Rgeadn » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:08 pm

Hey guys

I've just been shown something called x-patch
http://x-patch.pe.hu/about
http://www.voobly.com/gamemods/mod/713/X-Patch

Maybe I just missed or forgot about it but it seems like there are a lot of good fixes

eg
mayan vils not working slower on farms
onger shots being slower with chemistry researched

I haven't seen these changes on the UP changelog unless i'm just not seeing it

Why is this mod not more popular? Is it because of the added balance changes on top of the bug fixes?
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  kw1k000000 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:13 pm

  12 Dec 2017, 18:08 GMT » Rgeadn wrote:
Hey guys

I've just been shown something called x-patch


Either you are trolling or you were living under a rock for last one year. Its not used because many changes are controversial and also WK is the default "new" balance patch now. There is no space for a 3rd balance patch.
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  Rgeadn » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:19 pm

I was living under a rock yes, only recently got back into things

Also I meant just the Core Fixes, not the balance changes

All the core fixes should be in UP imo
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  scotia_pict » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:20 pm

'Scotia 1k aoczone user? :ugeek:'

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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  Rgeadn » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:21 pm

  12 Dec 2017, 18:20 GMT » scotia_pict wrote:
'Scotia 1k aoczone user? :ugeek:'

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I looked for xpatch/x-patch on aoczone and it didn't show any useful results, just some old xpatchagex2 from years ago ;sneaky
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  scotia_pict » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:25 pm

  12 Dec 2017, 18:21 GMT » Rgeadn wrote:
  12 Dec 2017, 18:20 GMT » scotia_pict wrote:
'Scotia 1k aoczone user? :ugeek:'

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I looked for xpatch/x-patch on aoczone and it didn't show any useful results, just some old xpatchagex2 from years ago ;sneaky


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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  Influenza » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:27 pm

It's not more popular because it's an optional patch. The only way to get much needed balance fixes into the game is by forcing it down people's throats.

It's not incorporated into 1.5 patch because those patches are for increasing the quality of the game that everyone can agree on and not directly touching the balance. (It does of course affect the balance as well, like decreasing command response time giving massive boost to all ranged units.)

The benefit of the HD team being officially supported is that they can make these kind of balance changes unilaterally. They of course went in the opposite direction and made it a less balanced game, but the possibility is there. Would even a single expert give their seal of approval on all the huge changes to the eagle warrior? Really doubt it.
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  Rgeadn » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:35 pm

Yeah I get not wanting another balance patch, the only reason people put up with some of the balance of WK is the fact that there are cool new civs and units. If it were just a new balance patch without the new civs people wouldn't give it a 2nd look.

Hopefully some of the core fixes make it into the game, it nerfs monks so I imagine that you would like it :geek:
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  Brainless » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:23 pm

  12 Dec 2017, 18:27 GMT » Influenza wrote:
It's not more popular because it's an optional patch. The only way to get much needed balance fixes into the game is by forcing it down people's throats.


or.. by wrapping it into a nice package, whith lots and lots of attractive new stuff and offer it as a take-all-or-leave-it opportunity that you can not refuse. And call it something weird like wololo kingsdoms
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Re: X-Patch?

Postby  Influenza » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:14 am

  12 Dec 2017, 21:23 GMT » Brainless wrote:
  12 Dec 2017, 18:27 GMT » Influenza wrote:
It's not more popular because it's an optional patch. The only way to get much needed balance fixes into the game is by forcing it down people's throats.


or.. by wrapping it into a nice package, whith lots and lots of attractive new stuff and offer it as a take-all-or-leave-it opportunity that you can not refuse. And call it something weird like wololo kingsdoms


I had told one of the organizers of the x-patch that the only way to get it popularly used was to somehow convince userpatch team to include some of the obvious balance changes and move forward from there. That was quite awhile before wololo was a thing though. Now the best way would be to try to convince cysion and co. to do the same.
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